I have a question. It is about color, although not exactly the color course. I have been studying Sheila Mather's paintings (on this site) all morning using either Richard's Gamut Mask or my color wheel to determine the colors used. I learned a lot, so it was a fun time well spent. I have also tried to spend time studying Richard's paintings. Here are my thoughts. It would appear to me that "you really do not see all those beautiful colors in nature" so you have to have color-theory knowledge to know what pretty colors to use. Will someone tell me why it is so important that "they" all say you MUST paint plein aire if you want to be a good landscape artist. Looks to me like you just mix pretty colors from color theory studies and go paint! Ro
For goodness sakes Ro, What a questuion! Where are all those plein air painters out there. I'm sure they are cooking away there with righteous indignation and lots of pronouns trying to sound not too profound and indignant before they answer this, a basic tenant of impressionism. How else to capture the euphoria of an afternoon, the spectrum on a dew drop, the reflection of the grass on the underbelly of a sheep or overhanging tree branch, the magic of a single ray of back light revealing a butterfly on a rose, using only just some pigments and a peice of board or some fabric and then not being there. Not too many people can paint a couple of still life coloured blocks with one light source from memory. For me half the enjoyment really of outdoor painting is being outdoors and seeing all the complexity. A good eye can surely pick a traced drawing or painting from a photograph any time, unless of course it's done from the experince of having done it previously once or twice or even more on site. But I do have to admit that digital imagery is getting pretty close to reallity for an artist these days, and becoming more of a tool as the technology increases. I have had a close look and been severly tempted by Daz Studios 3D and their Bryce program. Sadly my computer is not up to it, Terence
Roena King said:I have a question. It is about color, although not exactly the color course. I have been studying Sheila Mather's paintings (on this site) all morning using either Richard's Gamut Mask or my color wheel to determine the colors used. I learned a lot, so it was a fun time well spent. I have also tried to spend time studying Richard's paintings. Here are my thoughts. It would appear to me that "you really do not see all those beautiful colors in nature" so you have to have color-theory knowledge to know what pretty colors to use. Will someone tell me why it is so important that "they" all say you MUST paint plein aire if you want to be a good landscape artist. Looks to me like you just mix pretty colors from color theory studies and go paint! Ro
Well...good on you Ro for having the guts to ask the question!
Terry - Mate!...pardon us mere mortals (lol!); if we don't ask someone somewhere, we would never know & just might become famous in our own minds! Thanks for keeping us grounded, and our nose to the grindstone with a yearning to learn.
Emerson, once said: "Unless you try to do something beyond what you have already mastered, you will never grow".
That's us - we are TRYING to grow!
Now I have a question for you! I have already posed this to a professional artist, but yet to receive a reply.
Q: What is that fine line that you cross and say "I am a professional artist?"
Do you equate your knowledge, skills and/or sales of work? Or is it a state of mind?
And how many years did you paint for, before declaring yourself a professional?
I know artists with lots of Education institution certificates, but to my mind, couldn't paint to save themselves; on the other hand, I also know many artists that are self taught, professional and make loads of money.
Can you tell us your story, on how you arrived at "professional" please. :-))
I know I still have a lot to learn and not being a prolific artist; but with some sales under my belt - just wondered where I'm REALLY at.
Thanks for your response. Unfortunately, I am none the wiser. Sorry!
I must be an artist! I am a very visual person - can you draw me a bigger word picture please!
What has the Tax Office got to do with making the decission to be professional? Apart from the fact they, along with every other leech, want to suck very last drop out of you, and you are left with the dregs!
Calling yourself professional and being professional can be two different things. Here you are, jogging around in your own space, becoming famous in your own mind, then along comes Joe Blogg and asks all these really smart questions, that you're expected to answer! Lo and behold... you're left with egg on your face! You don't have the right answers - you just do what you do and call it art!
Then along comes Miss Artspeak and all her jargon. ???? What she saying?
Me?! ...I just paint the way I paint, because that's what I see and like. It is part of the life I have lived. It is what I know.
BUT..Have I painted it right?
It's a bit like the TV ad - the nerd in the gallery going on and on about a piece, only to have the gallery director reach over and flip the piece to turn on the air conditioner! There are those that know crap all about what they are talking about and there are artists that no crap all about painting!
So...Where do I fit?
I think I can draw and paint - but is it good enough, does it have the right appeal, is it trendy enough or maybe it is just too fugitive? I am not into abstract, though I appreciate some pieces, as is with a lot of other genre in art.
Again...I ask myself, where do my art and I fit?
With all this going around in the mind, just how do you arrive at "Professional"?
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Thank you, thank you thank you! I now feel that I am in the company of artists!
That being, those that share their hard won gains by trial and error, or good info received from another artist, to add to their bundle of skills.
I think you are right, when you said - "Anyone who answers the professional question is putting their head on a block".
I am yet to find anyone who can really define this catagory.
Like you, I have drawn and painted since I was very young. I have always tried to improve my skills as I journeyed through the years. I also have no ego about painting. As I said before, I paint the things I have experienced or seen. I thought I would have more time to paint in retirement, but unfortunately, not so! I was fortunate enough about 5 years ago, where i had the opportunity to paint every day for nearly two years. I had built up a good body of work in that period, so held an exhibition in my old home town. It was the biggest exhibition and attendance the gallery had at that time.
It was a huge learning curve of protocol at a gallery. But it was the unexpected assumption that people presume you are a professional artist, because you hold an exhibition, that really floored me. Also that people assume you can and will paint anything.
I have found out the hard way; I will not accept commissions. Dealing with people that don't know what they want, is not a good way to start a painting. They suddenly become experts the moment you produce the painting from their list of criteria, and say NO! After three sets of studies and a final painting; there was no deposit, so I don't feel obliged to go any further. I eventually cut the painting into three. One of which is in my gallery, on this site.
To answer your question Terry - I have no thoughts to becoming a professional artist. It is scary enough trying to call myself an artist. As for certificates - I personally don't think they are worth the paper they are written on. I have seen first hand certificates handed out to people that don't reach satisfactory standards, but still receive the certificate because it looks good on the books.
I enjoy what I do, when I get the opportunity. Hopefully soon, I will paint on a more regular basis again. But in the meantime, I will enjoy learning new things from this site and people like yourself, whom are willing to share their knowledge. For that - I thank you very much!