11x14 oil on stretched canvas - john crump hard at work.this is my limited pallette study...i think in my zeal to have things recede, i may have lost my value structure...thoughts?...

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Comment by susie gregory on October 23, 2011 at 8:19
thanks paolo!
Comment by Paolo Puggioni on October 23, 2011 at 5:48
I really like this Susie, the lights and shadows in the middle are ace.
Comment by susie gregory on October 21, 2011 at 9:48
thanks casey!
Comment by Casey Toussaint on October 21, 2011 at 9:31
The design is really strong = well done.
Comment by Rita Long on October 20, 2011 at 2:18

Hi, all - I too am trying a limited pallett next time. .  Richard's viseos and your comments have

shown me the value in that. Thanks.  Stu...get well soon.  Who is this Larry Seiler?  I am trying to be more "free and open" with my brush stokes and maybe the wet canvas webinae might help.  I recently tried watercolors and although I did not "like" it as much as acrylics, the experience has helped me soften up a bit.  I admire Richard's talent and ability to teach and appreciate your comments as well.  Sure is fun to continue to learn and grow - and wow is there a lot to learn yet.  Thanks!

Thanks!

Comment by susie gregory on October 20, 2011 at 1:43
richard...thanks so much! - after this fell in the dirt while i was trying to photograph it, i did my best to wipe off the little pieces...usually i would let it dry and then sort of pick things off but i didn't have the luxury of time since i wanted to post it - it got a bit smeary - and some of the brush work was lost, i fear - i also was working so hard to make things recede and still didn't get it done - i was wanting to have a warm/cool contrast near john - my center of interest - but not sure i succeeded there - i am really having a hard time "imagining" the trees in nz...I WANT TO BE THERE!!!!!!....you and your cronies are so damn lucky!!!!!!...and those mountains stay back in your redo...so easy to see when you show me! - maybe next time!  i love this and am learning so much!!!  good on ya!!!
Comment by susie gregory on October 20, 2011 at 1:35
stu - i took advantage of the 3-month offer - five dollars off - loved it.....so i'll be back next month for sure.  i didn't give up on my first painting ..i still love it - didn't love the second rendition where i got all steroided up on color - thus the decision to stay with a limited pallette for this last one. i think since i entered so late last month i was keen to get started earlier this month so had more time to spend on this... and i so appreciate richard's imput and pointers..i learn so much from everything he says - not just on mine...each time he pipes up...makes it all worthwhile!...i just got in under the wire for the over 60 competition and posted my 3 entries on this site.  can you access them there?..one was of a fancy pair of kickers, one was of a golfer girl (just like me...) and one was of my youngest grand joe when he was a year old.  i think since i don't have one particular style there's little chance i'll get chosen as one of the ten...but, as i told you..."if you do it, i'll do it!"...which ones did you decide on?
Comment by Stuart J. Gourlay on October 19, 2011 at 18:34
Susie, you are too cool; 2 critiques by Richard, and the second one had fallen in the dirt!  Amazing!  I had not looked at this in my b&w 5value mode until after Richard critiqued it, but he certainly improved it by lightening the values in the background and pushing the mountains into the distance.  Good work.  I guess you are hooked now and will be signing up again.  I am enjoying all the new postings and I will be signing up too.   Stu
Comment by Richard Robinson on October 19, 2011 at 18:02

Hi Susie, yes the background mountains seem to be creeping forward. Here's what it looks like lightening the values there just a little...

 

... immediately gives a better sensation of light and distance in the background.

I really like your idea for the painting and actually one of my notan studies was very similar to this. Something else you could look at here is the treatment of your trees - they look a bit formless to me like jelly or molten rocks. I know it's tricky giving them obvious form because they're in the shadow so you need to rely more on the outline shape of the tree, the deeper shadows underneath and sky colour reflecting off the upper foliage edges to give us some more subtle visual clues. Also the mirrored shapes of the trees either side of John look a little too manmade - one or both could do with changing. The clouds could do with some softer edges too. Other than those few things I really like this one - nice composition, colours and brushwork.

 

(Oops I just realized this is the second critique I've done for Suzie, which was unintentional, so I'm sorry if anyone's grumbling about that. Different paintings though!)

Comment by Stuart J. Gourlay on October 19, 2011 at 13:10
Susie, please post here or Email me your over 60 submissions.  I'm here in the hospital after a surgery and tried to get into Larry Seiler's Wet Canvas Live webinar, but there was a problem with the video feed.  So I checked out my Email and found your new posting.  I'm a little disappointed that you gave up on your original, because I did not think you needed to do very much to it, and I really liked it.  But maybe that's just because we painted from the same reference photo.  I usually let my paintings dry indoors or put them on my deck to begin with so they can't fall, but that's because I have had them fall off a table or railing before.  I also hate to get out my umbrella when I paint outdoors because I've seen an umbrella take down too many paint boxes; I just look for a good tree to paint under.  Stu

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